Women’s Ordination Is A Serious Offense!

Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl –  The Cleric and the
“Women Priest” Are Automatically Excommunicated

Nancy Frazier O’Brien, WASHINGTON (CNS) — The Vatican’s decision to declare the attempted ordination of women a major church crime reflects “the seriousness with which it holds offenses against the sacrament of holy orders” and is not a sign of disrespect toward women, Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl of Washington said July 15.

Archbishop Donald Wuerl

Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl Holding No Punches

In such an act, the Vatican said, the cleric and the woman involved are automatically excommunicated, and the cleric can also be dismissed from the priesthood.

But, the archbishop said, “the Catholic Church through its long and constant teaching holds that ordination has been, from the beginning, reserved to men, a fact which cannot be changed despite changing times.”

The Vatican action drew a sharp response from Erin Saiz Hanna, executive director of the Women’s Ordination Conference, “the decision “appalling, offensive and a wake-up call for all Catholics around the world. . . The idea that a woman seeking to spread the message of God somehow ‘defiles’ the Eucharist reveals an antiquated, backwards church that still views women as ‘unclean’ and unholy,” she said in a news release.

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10 comments to Women’s Ordination Is A Serious Offense!

  • Savio Sequeira

    Dear All,

    Why are we at all debating on “Ordination of Women” without any knowledge whatsoever about the subject ?

    To those who advocate the Ordination of Women, the ban smacks of discrimination against women, which is not true. When we view things with a bias, then those for, feel wronged. We ought to view things from the right perspective (neutral). Those who talk about equality of the sexes, consider priesthood as a profession and not a vocation and hence the argument / debate.

    When GOD created humans, male and female HE created them and assigned each one certain unique roles. It is not at all in our realm to ask why GOD chose certain distinct roles for man & woman.

    Can we question GOD as to why “Childbearing” is the sole domain of women ? Can anyone explain the mystery of the Holy Trinity (THE Father, THE Son & THE Holy Spirit – three PERSONS but ONE GOD)? It is beyond our human capacity to unravel this mystery. Certain things are best left as they are.

    Instead let us all strive to live our lives as per GOD’S Will. Let us begin by finding out what is GOD’S purpose in sending us into this world, at this time, in this place.

    Most of us live our life the way we want and which at most times is contrary to GOD’s Will, but we are quick to take sides in debates pertaining to Religion always expressing our personal opinions and thinking it to be the absolute truth, which ought to be accepted. Wrong my friends, we are wrong.

    Please bear in mind that,

    Man’s ways are not GOD’s ways
    Man’s thoughts are not GOD’s thoughts

    GOD will only judge us by how we have lived our lives (whether in conformity with GOD’s will or not) here on earth.

    GOD Bless.

  • Dorothy Conklin

    To Paul Dionne: Can you provide the fact that for 500 years during the rise of Christianity, women were validly ordained and served as priests. I am not saying it was impossible for women to have been ever ordained. It could have happened erroneously. If that were so, then Pope Gelasius would have been remiss if he had not corrected the error. Recall that it was a priest of the Church… Arius who declared that Jesus was not divine and the Church had to declare him a heretic and excommunicated him in 321 – not that excommunication stopped him from furthering his erroneous teachings. Look up the Catholic encyclopedia for added info. So the rise of Christianity had human flaws from its inception with the apostles – one betraying Christ to death, one disowning Christ the rest abandoning Him in His hour of need except for Our Lady, St. John and Mary Magdalene and some other holy women. If any women should have been made priests Christ would have chosen these faithful ones.. but He did not- because He wanted Men to stand up to their obligations with Him as their role model. I believe He gave men that role so they have an opportunity to develop their spiritual and be the kind of support women need in their lives.

  • Paul Dionne

    I applaud the response of Erin Saiz Hanna that “the decision is appalling and a wake up call for all Catholics around the world”. Let us not be blinded to the fact that for 500 years, during the rise of Christianity, women were ordained and served as priests, bishops, prophets, and were persecuted along with the men of the church. It took a papal epistle in the year 495 to ban a practice that had existed since the time of Christ. In that year, Pope Gelasius issued an official church edict demanding that churches cease the practice of ordaining women and condemning the bishops who ordained them. A practice so widespread, apparently, that the pope deemed it necessary to issue on official papal proclamation!

    Now 1500 years later, it’s time to recognize the crucial leadership role women played in the formation of the early church; to lay bare the church’s prejudice against women; to ask for their forgiveness; and, to reinstate their position of equal partnership in the church.

  • Barbkw

    I left the Church 15 years ago because I began believing secular society and what they said (and continue to say) about the Church.

    Additionally, I must admit that as a Catholic attending public school (in the 70’s-80’s) we seem to be the most at risk group that easily falls away from the Faith.

    I lacked a deep attachment to the Eucharist, to Christ, to Sacred Scripture and also to His Church.

    Needless to say, as a result of that, I easily developed a semi-radical feminist, pro-contraception, pro-choice (I wouldn’t have an abortion but I wouldn’t deny another woman her choice) mentality.

    As for your topic here, concerning the ordination of women….

    Humility is the opposite of pride and it is pride that wounds the women who are attempting to ordain themselves.

    These women could easily use their gifts in ways that add to the Body of the Church but they choose to set themselves at conflict with Papal authority.

    They easily could become Protestant but where would the fight be in that?

    Please look at the theology of the “ordained” women in Protestantism and project into the future where they are guiding those who are all to willing to follow them.

    Female Protestant priestess are rewriting prayer turning God the Father into God the Mother, one priestess is saying that “abortion is a blessing”, and of course Protestants now have female noncelibate gay partnered “bishops”.

    Satan used Eve’s pride to conquer Adam and draw them both away from their love & kinship with God.

  • Jerry Gladson

    According to Ephesians 4:11-13 that apostles, pastors, teachers (i.e. priests) are gifts of the Spirit. I do not find that the gifts of the Spirit are determined by gender. However it is clothed in smooth theological language, this ban against women in the priesthood is but a form of prejudice against women. It has no place in a church. Women in the Catholic church should consider leaving it in protest.

  • McGreevy Michael

    There were women in the early Church, such as Phoebe, who assisted the clergy. Phoebe aided the local church in Cenchreae and was called a “deaconess” by Paul (Rom. 16:1). Such women, in certain ages of the early Church, assisted in the baptism of women, which was necessary because baptism often was performed without benefit of clothing.

    Although the Catholic Encyclopedia recounts that there is some historical evidence that deaconesses were charged with their ministry in a manner resembling the ordination of deacons, it is certain that there was a fundamental difference in the rites. The First Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325) made it clear that “deaconesses” did not receive sacramental ordination. If there was a special liturgical rite for deaconesses, it likely resembled the modern non-sacramental installation ceremonies that charge extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion with their responsibilities

  • Rachel Buckley

    For anyone who believes that women should be priests – do you not think this is insulting to Jesus? If this was the way it was meant to be would Jesus have not appointed his own Mother as head of the Church and in fact made Her the first priest?

    This obviously was not what Jesus wanted and therefore he appointed Peter.

    As a Catholic woman, brought up in an era that was post Vatican II, I am not offended that women aren’t allowed to be priests.

    Can we not for once, instead of yielding to modernism, stick and abide with the traditions of our one TRUE Catholic faith and understand that Jesus knew what he was doing when he appointed Peter?

    Do we want to stay as the one true Catholic Church which has held the same traditions for over 2000 years? or do we become (with no disrespect to any of them) one of the 33,000 Anglican denominations with different rules and regulations?

    Women have their own role in the church as Nuns and Sisters.

    Many other faiths keep their traditions and have their rules ie the Jewish faith, and they are not slandered for this.
    So please, look further than this modernistic approach and keep in line with what John Paul II stated in 1994.

    I personally find it extremely sad having read the post which states that satan and hell forces the church to say it will not change’.
    All I have to say in reply to that comment is from Matthew 16:18 – “And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

  • James Patrick

    “Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.

    Invoking an abundance of divine assistance upon you, venerable brothers, and upon all the faithful, I impart my apostolic blessing.

    From the Vatican, on May 22, the Solemnity of Pentecost, in the year 1994, the sixteenth of my Pontificate.”

  • Daine Elizabeth

    Women have always been ordained. It is Satan and evilness that forces the Church to say that it will not change.

    Romans 16 (New Living Translation)
    Paul Greets His Friends
    1 I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a deacon in the church in Cenchrea.
    2 Welcome her in the Lord as one who is worthy of honor among God’s people. Help her in whatever she needs, for she has been helpful to many, and especially to me.
    3 Give my greetings to Priscilla and Aquila, my co-workers in the ministry of Christ Jesus.
    4 In fact, they once risked their lives for me. I am thankful to them, and so are all the Gentile churches.
    5 Also give my greetings to the church that meets in their home.

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