Warning: Eastern Meditation Should Never Be Used

The Untold Story of Fr. Kneemiller;
From New Age Transcendental Meditation
Teacher To Catholic Priest

Check This Story Out! Fr. Kneemiller Reveals His Innocent Beginnings With The New Age Movement, His Conversion Through the Family Rosary,  A Healing Process Lasting Well Into His Priesthood and A Warning For All To Hear.

Fr. Bill Kneemiller

By Father Bill Kneemiller, Davenport Diocese – The Catholic Messenger: The topic of New Age movements, once a budding campus phenomenon, is now mainstream and as close to us as our local bookstore or DVD movie. New Age refers to forms of spirituality that draw from old systems of knowledge such as Zen, Gnosticism (secret knowledge) and Eastern meditation.

New Age concepts and ideals are even becoming part of our vocabulary. I know this terminology well, as I had a former involvement with Eastern meditation practices before my reconversion to my Catholic roots. I have been steeped in both traditions. So, I may have some insights for Catholics who are dabbling in New Age practices. I have not publicly written about this before because it has taken time to come out of this New Age involvement.

It Started With Good Intentions

I was blessed to get a solid Catholic education in St. Charles, Mo., attending Catholic grade school and high school, and being taught by dozens of faith-filled priests and religious Sisters. After high school, I was ready to see more of life. As far as my faith life, Catholicism was OK but I wanted to get a spiritual high. At the University of Missouri I was intrigued by the philosophy of yoga, and in reading my first yoga book “Heaven Lies Within,” it seemed then to fit with me, the new “seeker.” After all, didn’t Jesus use these very words? After about a year of stumbling around with self-help yoga books, I started practicing the Eastern meditation technique, transcendental meditation. From this date in the early 1970s, there followed about 18 years of doing everything with this program. I traveled to half-a-dozen countries spending months, even close to a year overseas at a time studying the technique and advanced programs.

It Was Being Supported By Catholic Leaders

Also, I thought I was meeting the coolest people in the world such as Deepak Chopra, now a self-help guru in his own right, and Johnny Gray, author of “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus.” At the time, it seemed great to me that Catholic leaders such as the Trappists in Massachusetts were practicing this meditation technique along with priests endorsing it. Everything seemed OK at the time because I was taught it is just a technique which enriches everyone’s own religion and the mantra used for this meditation practice was a meaningless word. It would be decades before I learned that mantras are names of Hindu gods.

The Family Rosary Started the Conversion

After about 18 years of Eastern meditation involvement, I started going to a family rosary, at first, out of curiosity. I was taught “prayer with the heart” and it completely changed my concept of prayer from being a rote practice to being a conversation and relationship with Christ. With my newfound rosary friends, I enjoyed going to Catholic conferences and events. The first change I noticed was that I wanted to be around people who believed in the Catholic faith; the conversation and New Age-culture started sounding unusual, even strange.

I Denounced The Mantra

After a few years, the Catholic culture won out, and I just stopped all involvement with Eastern meditation. I did wonder at the time if I could just walk away; was there any closure? Five years of seminary followed, then, soon after ordination, I started attending the healing Mass at Sacred Heart Cathedral in Davenport. One of the priests there offered a prayer of deliverance for me at that time, and recommended that I denounce the mantra, and that was a huge step in cutting my former ties with Eastern meditation.

The Affects Still Lingered Well Into Priesthood

My story then picks up in 2010, after a tour as a military chaplain in Afghanistan, when I attend a healing conference in Chicago. This conference is held at Mundelein Seminary every August and is for priests involved in the healing ministry, along with training for exorcists. There I meet Father Bob Thorn, a diocesan priest from Wisconsin who had a similar history as me, being a former meditation teacher and now a Catholic priest. Fr. Thorn was helping with reconciliation one evening, so I waited, last in line to go to confession with him. I thought, “Well, Fr. Thorn may have some insights about the Eastern meditation movement, and his subsequent re-conversion to his Catholic roots. I also thought that when we talked, it would be a friendly social visit, such as “Ha-ha-ha,” wasn’t that kind of crazy back then in the ‘70s, and our involvement with meditation and everything …”

More Healing Was Needed

But as soon as I sat down with Fr. Thorn, there was no “Ha-ha-ha” — only seriousness. I told him I was involved as a meditation teacher back then as he was, and he looked fairly concerned. He said, “Bill — you still have that Eastern meditation in you.” He went on to explain that I needed to denounce every Hindu god that is invoked in the meditation ceremony. I realized he was right. The transcendental meditation ceremony is filled with dozens of invocations to gods, such as ‘Brahma, Shiva’… you name it; it’s there in the ceremony in which everyone is taught the technique.

So, Fr. Thorn and I went to the conference directors and asked them if they could pray for us that evening. Fr. Thorn downloaded the meditation ceremony from the Internet, and we were ready to be prayed over for this intention.

Finally, Years After Being A Priest

Three priests helped with this, including one from Canada and one from Peru who I understand to be two of the most skilled exorcists in the world. The priests recommended that I denounce each god and proclaim Jesus Christ as savior, which took about a quarter of an hour. I did this, and the priest did a casting-out prayer. The healing session was a profound gift and grace. Wow, the effects of spiritual healing! That night, I slept like a baby.

Never Use Eastern Meditation For Any Reason At All

Then, the next week, and in subsequent months I have felt lighter and freer than I have ever experienced in my life. The next week at the healing Mass in Davenport, I gave a talk about healing from New Age practices and spent an hour-and-a-half afterwards hearing confessions and praying for people who had similar involvements. I could never recommend anyone using Eastern meditation for any reason at all. But, I also now see many intrusions of New Age thought, or re-formulated Hinduism in our culture, and some in our parishes.

“Many people are convinced that there is no harm in ‘borrowing’ from the wisdom of the East, but the example of transcendental meditation should make Christians cautious about the prospect of committing themselves unknowingly to another religion (in this case Hinduism),” according to a 2003 Church document entitled: “Jesus Christ, the Bearer of the Water of Life: A Christian Reflection on the New Age.”

Christian Meditation Good; New Age Meditation Bad

“There is no problem with learning how to meditate but the object or content of the exercise clearly determines whether it relates to the God revealed by Jesus Christ … or simply to the hidden depths of the self,” the document states.

Our Church’s teachings remind us that we have in the person of Jesus Christ a trustworthy and sure guide, true man and true God, and source of all goodness!

(Fr. Kneemiller is pastor of St. Joseph Parish in Hills and St. Mary parishes in Lone Tree and Nichols, IA.)

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45 comments to Warning: Eastern Meditation Should Never Be Used

  • I believe all individuals of all cultures and religions having professed Jesus Christ as the only Son of One God has the truth. For all will know Him from least to greatest.

  • So you say that Hinduism and Christianity are the same?

  • The One God revealed His Son to us and I would say it safely in modern times that Jesus Christ is the only mediator! He is King of kings and Lord of lords! So if God appointed the angel Gabriel to give His Son as the name Jesus and Peter proclaims Him as the Christ, this is the name that should be glorified by those with the Holy Spirit! Do eastern cultures believe this?

  • Om meditations and mantra and all kinds of eastern music have been popping up on my phone and I had a desire to listen to it, could a Christian reflect on the Trinity in meditation to this?

  • ed

    priest, whom aim i to judge the servant of another, to his own master he stands or falls and stand he will, for the
    WORD will make him stand.

    One must never bit the hand that feeds HIM, right preach.

    You know what it say’s about the one who destroys the mind of a child????

  • John

    Yes. Natalie is right. I see it as an opportunity seized by the yoga gurus as the christians are not supposed to be who they are.

  • valere

    why would a Christian need eastern philosophy he can he died he rose again, No one but Jesus is your saviour, your not Christian if your looking elsewhere

  • Robert B.

    True meditation has nothing to do with indian deities. It has to do with connecting with the inner Self, which is God’s kingdom. Only in stillness can you perceive God. If you fear that the devil disguises even as an angel, then be aware that any of your religious priests or teachers may be one. You seem to give more power to the evil than God. I believe in God ONLY. We should be more accepting towards others, NOT JUDGE, so not to be judged. Hinduism is more than a religion, it is a WAY OF LIVING, NON judgmental, always accepting people as they are. There is quite a lot to learn from them. They admit that GOD IS ONLY ONE. But we westerners tend to dismiss anything that does not go along with “my” teachings, what I was told is “right and wrong”.
    “I” decide what is right and wrong and impose “my” interpretations of God’s wishes onto others. That is how we westerners operate. This tends to DOGMATISM and henceforth we criticize our “neighbor” for not “performing” MY WAY of worshipping God. GOD IS EVERYWHERE, OMNIPRESENT, OMNIPOTENT, ALL LOVING, ALL ACCEPTING and can disguise Himself even in the form of a beggar. People in India are so much more humble and can teach us so many more lessons on even Christianity with their non-judgmental behavior, than thousands of priests in our western society.
    Please, I invite you to reflect on this and stop criticizing other cultures for their religious rites, practices or views. In fact our TRILOGY of Father, Son and Holy Spirit is based (if not copied) from the indian Trilogy of Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva (5000 year old religion). Our Rosary, also known as JAPAMALA or even CHAPELET (in french) comes from the indian word JAPAMALA and we changed the recitation of any mantra to the recitation of “ave Maria . . .” where the main purpose is to still the mind. We do not control our minds, it is our minds that controls us. That is why some of “us” are constantly “moving around, nervous, fidget”.
    THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN, and it is to be found only within YOUR SELF. I BELIEVE IN THE SANCTITY OF YOUR BEING and the HOLY-NESS OF GOD’S IMAGE MANIFEST IN YOU. EVERY BEING IS SAINTLY in God’s eyes. Be yourself and God is with you. I respect you even if you don’t share my point of view. May the Almighty bless you in abundance. He is pure Love. He loves you AS YOU ARE!

  • natalie

    Jesus is the only way to internal peace and eternal life. Meditation, yoga, etc, may give you the peace you expect but THE SOURCE of it is not clear. As Christians we meditate on God’s word to receive revelations from Him, the source is clear, it is God. As far as meditation is concerned, it opens the realm of evil spirits which might please you at the time but are very dangerous to your life. The bible clearly states that even the devil disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

  • Spencer

    I respect your beliefs, but to call eastern meditation evil, that’s just being biased.

  • Marco

    Mat 14:22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away. Mat 14:23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone. Mat 14:24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. Mat 14:25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. Mat 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. Mat 14:27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. Mat 14:28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. Mat 14:29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. Mat 14:30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. Mat 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? Mat 14:32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased. Mat 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

  • lee

    Thank you for your insight.I was on the search for how to meditate to calm the mind from all the clutter of modern culture.I returned to my catholic roots and thank God for the gift of faith.You have given me the right direction to meditate prayerfully in a Catholic Christian way. May God continue to bless you to persevere.

  • Minh Tran

    “The transcendental meditation ceremony is filled with dozens of invocations to gods, such as ‘Brahma, Shiva’…” ??? Really??? Transcendental meditation is a mindfulness practice of awareness of yourself and environment around you every moment to discover the truth nature of yourself. It has nothing to do with Brahma, Shiva, etc… This author obviously does not know anything about transcendental meditation. A nice way to say it is that he is opposite to the truth.

    • Patrick

      Dear Minh Tran. You are misinformed. I too practiced TM for years and even attended their University. The Puja that is used to initiate a person into the practice of TM while the TM teacher kneels before an image of their gurus is indeed an very commonly understood invocation to Hindu Gods in the Hindu Vedic language of Sanskrit. While the TM group tried to downplay this for many decades, they now openly worship Hindu gods and goddesses and practice occult powers, Hindu astrology, Hindu fire ceremonies, etc. It all costs lots of money of course. I know people who paid $1 million for their top level “Raja” course. They now where white robes and golden crowns. It’s a cult, plain and simple.

  • Daniel

    I believe in eastern meditation! As a non believer. This practice is a good practice! No matter what the hell you believe. Reading these replies remind me of why I left religion altogether. I grew up in the church and I realize… now!! How religion makes you ignorant to the facts!!….. yada yada yada…Not trying to start an argument via internet and I’m sorry to intrude! I was just surfing eastern meditation.

  • Mark De Guzman

    It is just pride in one’s religion and hate for others belief when we say “others will not be saved” if they use eastern meditation and we will be saved using Christian meditation. Respect for other tradition is a must if we want peace and love to dwell in this world. No man has the right to judge for only God knows who goes where in the spirit realm, when the flesh is dissolved. I tell you brothers, though Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, believe in reincarnation they also have exact equivalent for Ressurected Body mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15. They call it Rainbow Body, or Body of Light in new age. If we believed in both humanity and immortality of Jesus, they also have saints that are immortals and do miracles like walk on water and ascending into heaven in broad daylight. Brothers in Christ, please stop being biased. Different traditions and cultures from different country have different names for exactly the same thing. It is logically similar to when we name things like sun, air, breath, etc. We all experience these things and its benefits in reality no matter what religion, though we call it differently according to our belief system. Are you not happy that many men can be saved ? Focus on hope and goodness in men’s heart not belittling others as doing evil practice. When the Jewish scribes cannot do the miracles of Jesus or cannot comprehend his wisdom….they call it blasphemy. But this hardness of their heart, that though truth is plain to them they don’t believe because of their pride is what Jesus condemn as hypocrisy. They are like the swine who trample pearls of wisdom under their feet. If one belief system is not conducive to yours then leave it. Biased or narrowmindedness will not set us free from ignorance of the truth. We will always be trapped with words. Pick the good discard the bad teachings..this is how we grow spiritually regardless of religion. It is like searching for the gold dust in the river….you extract the truth from most difficult sources. I want to learn more from other’s experience.

  • Mark De Guzman

    I am a Roman Catholic by birth. I believe with narrow mindedness and hate for other religions is not the path of Christians. If you are truly deep in Christian faith you will not be afraid to learn other religion, fear not of being converted. If your foundation with Christianity is good, you will not lose your way even in darkness of other men’s heart. Jesus mix himself with sinners and not get tainted with evil. Read the passages in the bible well and compare the similarity with Tao Te Ching, Heart Sutra, even Yoga of Patanjali. Everything is about the evolution or renewing of one’s mind and spirit. Jesus and the saints taught us to open our hearts even to the Gentiles is it not? Please study the life of Saint Francis of Assisi and his mystical beliefs. He is an equivalent of a Taoist and Zen master doing deep meditation and living a contemplative life. Keep one faith or religion, yet practice the same universal principles of love, serenity, and wisdom. Buddha nature is equivalent to Christ nature equivalent to Original mind or Original essence. God is equivalent to the Tao in Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu. A lot may have happen in the past. Nobody knows why Judaism from which Christian and Muslim faith is rooted is also similar to Eastern philosophy. Especially Proverbs of Solomon and Wisdom of Ben Sirach. Catholic faith has a dark past. Reincarnation was abolished during the time of Origen, an early church father. Check the history so you will not get lost in the present. A lot of scriptures have been excluded from today’s bible. We call it apocryphal. Even the Naghammadi Library which were believed to be by early Christian, was suppressed. Stop the hate and fear brothers, and let’s grow in faith and wisdom(enlightenment in Buddhist concept). Hindu mantra was meant to silence the mind in order to expand or open it. It is similar to repetitive prayer of Holy Rosary. Buddhist also use meditation beads. Spiritual retreats in Catholic is similar in goal to unite or go back to the Father or source…similar to contemplative life of Zen Buddhist. Yoga means to yoke or in union with the Source of All life. ” I and the Father are one” as Jesus said. Jesus and the Father are two different entity yet inseparable in divine nature. “He seated at the right hand of the Father” is basically the equivalent Buddhist concept of a single drop of water returns to the ocean, a single individual mind ultimately merge with the universal mind of a God. In Acts of the Apostle, those early Christians belong to the Way (Acts 9). Similarly, Taoist call themselves followers of the Tao or the Way. “Whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows” (2 Corinthians 12) in new age equivalent is out of body experience or astral projection. Please open your eyes brothers. Salvation is not dependent on any religion, but on individual efforts to strive for goodness and wisdom. Be aware of each single intention in your heart, for from it springs gracious speech and noble actions, and or devilish acts and corrupted minds. You become what you choose by your own free will. I don’t advise to convert to another religion, only conversion or renewal of mind and spirit.

  • Mark De Guzman

    I am a Roman Catholic by birth. I believe with narrow mindedness and hate for other religions is not the path of Christians. If you are truly deep in Christian faith you will not be afraid to learn other religion, fear not of being converted. If your foundation with Christianity is good, you will not lose your way even in darkness of other men’s heart. Jesus mix himself with sinners and not get tainted with evil. Read the passages in the bible well and compare the similarity with Tao Te Ching, Heart Sutra, even Yoga of Patanjali. Everything is about the evolution or renewing of one’s mind and spirit. Jesus and the saints taught us to open our hearts even to the Gentiles is it not? Please study the life of Saint Francis of Assisi and his mystical beliefs. He is an equivalent of a Taoist and Zen master doing deep meditation and living a contemplative life. Keep one faith or religion, yet practice the same universal principles of love, serenity, and wisdom. Buddha nature is equivalent to Christ nature equivalent to Original mind or Original essence. God is equivalent to the Tao in Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu. A lot may have happen in the past. Nobody knows why Judaism from which Christian and Muslim faith is rooted is also similar to Eastern philosophy. Especially Proverbs of Solomon and Wisdom of Ben Sirach. Catholic faith has a dark past. Reincarnation was abolished during the time of Origen, an early church father. Check the history so you will not get lose in the present. A lot of scriptures have been excluded from today’s bible. We call it apocryphal. Even the Naghammadi Library which were believed to be of the by early Christian. Stop the hate and fear brothers and grow in faith and wisdom(enlightenment in Buddhist concept). Hindu mantra were meant to silence the mind in order to expand or open it. It is similar to repetitive prayer of Holy Rosary. Check the number of beads in the holy rosary. It is 108 similar in number with Buddhist meditation beads. Spiritual retreats in Catholic is similar in goal to unite or go back to the Father or source…similar to contemplative life of Zen Buddhist, Yoga means to yoke or in union with the Source of All life. ” I and the Father are one as Jesus said. Jesus and the Father are two different entity yet inseparable in divine nature. He seated at the right hand of the Father is basically the equivalent concept of Buddhist, a single drop of water returns to the ocean, a single individual mind ultimately merge with the universal mind of a God.

    • margaret

      can I ask do you still practise your faith, if so what does your priest think. I am interested because I am on the same journey! I do feel it is time that the church embraced all for what is good can only be of God.

  • Elias

    Seems to me that some people have lost faith in the abilities that God has given them. We do have the ability to meditate and heal ourselves, however 99.99% of us never reach that state due to being told we are weak, and powerless without Jesus and God, which may be true. But the didn’t just dump us here without the ability to get back to them….and how do you figure that ability is?? Through meditation, and regardless of what meditation techniques you must use to find your way back in this journey of life..it doesn’t matter! Use transcidental mediation of you like, just without using ‘their’ words, create your own smooth words that help you reach your state….or better yet..binaural beats.
    Without meditation we can not find our true selves to be able to fix whats wrong with it in the first place…and if we can fix it, then we will never be delivered because we are not what Jesus needs us to be. So meditation is a MUST to understand yourself and if you in fact are headed the correct way.

  • It is hard to go against popular opinion and I appreciate and am grateful for the witness of Fr Kneemiller. May God continue to bless him and his mistry.

  • Henry Liguori

    Has anyone ever used the ancient Jesus Prayer for meditation or even aware of it. Check it out; it is from our Eastern Catholic and Orthodox Traditions. Most of all, it is based on Scripture.

  • Russo Lewis

    I know thought ignites the fire in my belief system, finds a place for my consciousness in my mind map, (in a free society) we choose our Guide for the journey, our primary spark, Jesus Christ or New Age God. For myself, I cannot pretend to know God’s plan for even one of His children, myself included, language, method or guides God provides to safely return us home to heaven. But I liked reading Fr. Kneemiller’s story very much. I concur with his advice of caution. My only suggestion is this; I’ve learned caution works both ways. Christianity or New Age, good or danger, betrayal may be found on either path, Jesus himself they crucified. However, with that caution I admit the spiritual belief in his resurrection, and the promise of our own, ignites hope in my heart and lights my way differently than on any other path.

  • Andy

    If meditation clears the mind so you can be more in tune to the word of God. Clearing one’s mind so the soul is free of other worries is wrong? I meditate but do so freeing my mind from all trappings of our world.

  • Pauline Meegan

    Thank you for the information on Trensend Meditation. I was at a talk last night, but the holy spirit guided. Thank God in Heaven

  • Savio Sequeira

    Andrea,

    Susan has very rightly quoted from the BIBLE where JESUS says “I am the WAY, the Truth & the LIFE and no one comes to the FATHER but through ME”.

    There are instances galore where people with varied beliefs (in search of the TRUTH) have read, researched and finally concluded that the Catholic Faith is indeed the one true path to attain eternal Salvation. Many Catholics themselves have strayed from the Church (some have even left it altogether)and after experimenting with different beliefs, have finally come back to the Catholic faith. Most of us do not want to come out of our comfort zones and consider everything else (which is contrary to our way of life or belief) as NONSENSE or worse still as NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA.

    It is all in the MIND. When we seek the TRUTH with an open mind (without any prejudices), and without any assumptions whatsoever, we will invariably come to the conclusion (as many have done before us) that indeed, the Catholic faith is the only true path to attain Salvation.

    GOD Bless Us All

  • Andrea:

    Not that I can speak for the good Father, but… “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but through me.” Uhhhhh…. ‘Nuf said.

  • Andrea scorer

     

    Wow, so much fear and exclusion in this article! I appreciate your desire to help others, but to think that every other religion or meditation represents the devil, except for your own religion, is way off base. What year is this? I’d hoped that fear-based belief ended in the middle ages! By the way, just about everything in India is named after an Indian god, including probably the TM mantras, just like about every person and every city here has a Christian name—does that make us all members of a secret Christian sect? It’s in the culture, silly. I think your story about trying different approaches to reaching God in your earlier years was touching and sweet; we all should have such an open heart. However, somewhere you went off the paranoid deep end—and I am so sorry for you! If our belief systems makes us paranoid about all other religions and all other spiritual practices, it is time to take a deep look inside and ask, what’s really at work here? Is there some weakness inside me that makes me intolerant of everything else? Why don’t I recognize that universal truths exist in all religions rather than seek out sources of fear? Why can’t I accept that there are many paths to God but must insist that only mine is the right one.

     

    • Amanze Lindaqueen

      you know why? b/c Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life. no one comes to the father except through me”. He also said “I have other sheep who are not in this flock” so Jesus Christ himself has told us there are his other sheep.He didn’t condemn them, neither do catholics! But, what we are saying is I better stay in his flock and experience his fulness then to be in the other sheep with limited experiences. Imagine a catholic and a hindu reach heaven tomorrow, there everything is as clear as the sea. A hindu now realises that Jesus is the only true way. if he is given second chance, do you think the religion he is in, will not matter to him? He never felt him as his saviour here,so many tresures he gain/gave to his church you missed out! it will be a real BIG MISS OUT! that is why is very very important that you should seek for the truth.have open mind, do alots of research. be sincere if God sees truth in you,he will reveiw himself b/c he is the truth and truth is truth in all times and circumstances.
      Goodluck.

  • pragalv malakar

    As i know about the meditation the simply it open the heart to soul (ATMA), where will be no differences between any religious meditation it only shows the most beneficial to all HUMAN beings. – PRM

  • Roger Pelizzari

    There’s a serious misunderstanding in the Catholic church about TM. It stems from an erroneous idea about Hindu gods which is even common in India. These gods are actually just laws of nature which exist in every human being. New research has located these laws as the organs and processes in the human body!

    TM is practiced by people of all religions with totally life-supporting benefits.

    Do some reading people. This book may wake you up.

    Human Physiology: Expression of Veda and the Vedic Literature
    Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D.

    This landmark textbook by Tony Nader, M.D., Ph.D., describes his recent discovery that the structure of human physiology, as known by modern anatomy, and the structure of the most ancient record of human knowledge, the Vedic Literature, are identical.

    Dr. Nader shows that all physiological components match the 40 branches of the Vedic Literature, one to one, both in structure and function, in the minutest detail.

    Dr. Nader’s research was guided by profound insights into the ancient Vedic Literature provided by Maharishi. This discovery has brought to light that the human physiology is the expression of the total intelligence of Natural Law.

  • thorn

    This is silly and negative propaganda with an obvious agenda. TM is science and has nothing to do whatsoever with religion.

  • joyce

    Thank you for highlighting this.

    I would like to kindly ask how can one tell which meditation is wrong, is the normal one of clearing the mind and soul harmfull? even if we dont mention the hindu gods? and is it okey to go ahead n use the normal meditation to relax?

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  • Tim

    Thank you, John.

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    You’re welcome.

  • This came from an email subscriber.

    Thank you Father, I too have dabbled in Eastern Meditation. I thought as most people do, meditate and heal as Jesus has healed. With the mantras and everything that goes with it. I guess I was hesitant in the whole ordeal but I went along with it. Thank you for finally opening my eyes as to what is right. I love my Catholic religion and upbringing. Please pray for me.

    God Bless You, Angie

  • Amy Chapman

    I would like to know from anyone with expertise if there are any potential ramifications to starting off Mass by ringing a Buddhist Singing Bowl … or starting catechism classes by jingling Tyngsha Cymbals. These practices — as you might guess — go on at my Catholic parish.

  • Juditha

    I say please make the facbook link in ENGLISH – when we post it to facbook, it comes out in Spanish????

    _________

    I am trying Juditha. I think it is may have something to do with the “sample text widget” that showed up after a theme update. I really don’t know what is causing it.

    A prayer or two would greatly help this technically lacking brain of mine.

    Thanks for the update.

    God bless,
    John Quinn

  • anandgeorge

    i am a indian but i think our meditation is too foolishness… in our christan faith difficulty’s are only a little thing because our lord christ felt pain more than any human in this world! this is the power of our christan faith…… this power reduces believers pain..

  • Tim

    Thanks for the comment. I will address your comments in bold.

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    Howdy,

    I’m not sure I follow your logic here. I’ll address this (admittedly well-written) article in steps.

    Are you deriding contemplative practices in general, or merely those that “invoke” Hindu gods/goddesses? Our Church has a VERY long history of contemplation/meditation, from the Desert Fathers on up through the modern monastic orders. Defining meditation as just one particular style of thing is weak at best, dangerous at worst. I view my own pre-Mass prayers as a sort of meditation, since it is definitely an introspective procedure. Meditation, especially “Eastern” meditation, is just as often conducted by one’s self as it is in a group, probably moreso the former.

    Father clearly stated Eastern Meditation, he even further clarified his point with this comment:

    “There is no problem with learning how to meditate but the object or content of the exercise clearly determines whether it relates to the God revealed by Jesus Christ … or simply to the hidden depths of the self,” the document states.

    Defining mantra as “any word or phrase involving the name of a Hindu god/goddess” is pretty sloppy, I have to say. To begin with, there are a LOT of gods/goddesses in South Asian history, and each one has LOTS of different names. You could probably make up a nonsense word that sounds like Sanskrit and you might hit close to a god’s name. 🙂 A mantra can be, quite literally, any word or phrase that is concentrated upon, such as, and this is important to remember: “Oh come Emanuel.” Using my definition, which is correct, would lead an outside observer to think that our Mass has loads of mantras. Even a simple “Amen” is a pretty meaningful phrase when repeated. Catholic mantras are even prettier and easier in the Latin or Greek, too.

    Again, Christian meditation is good, Eastern meditation is bad.

    Finally, to say that repeating the name of a god/goddess from a far-away religion that you don’t practice somehow imbues that name and its (from your perspective) evil power in your heart is silly and alarmist.
    Really? Scripture, tradition and the saints argue differently. I’m not deriding the practice of exorcism or the belief in some kind of possession (I haven’t read enough about it), so I recuse myself from doing so. Arabic-speaking Christians use the word “Allah” when they refer to God. Are they then apostates? Do you believe that the Catholic Church is the one true Church established by Jesus? Of course not. Christians have lived in South Asia for a good long time, and have generally been treated quite well by Hindus. Point?

    What I’m saying, and the reason that I took such a long response here, is that lumping together anything (Who lumped together anything? We are comparing the Catholic faith with a different religion. This is not a trivial topic. For far too long we have allowed an infiltration of false prayer to enter into the Church.)that isn’t straight and true orthodox Roman catechism and calling it “evil” both ignores the history of our Church and history in general. This statement is true when reviewing the history of Catholics that do not support the teachings of the Catholic Church. Have you read the life of St. Francis de Sales? St. Paul? St. Francis Xavier? They all have held to and staunchly defended the teachings of the Catholic Faith. I’ve been on both sides of this divide and I feel quite strongly about my response. Thank you. Tim have you picked a side or are you straddling the fence?

    Tim, I cannot encourage you enough to study more under the guidance of the Catholic faith. People coming out of the New Age philosophy have read these books.

    Catholics And The New Age: by Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J.
    The New Age Counterfeit; byJohnnette S Benkovic
    Ransomed From Darkness:The New Age, Christian Faith and the Battle for Souls;By Moira Noonan, I love this one

    May Our Mother Mary be our guide.
    John Quinn

    Again you will want to check this out. Spirit Battle For Souls/

  • Heather

    Kathy-
    Please don’t be quick to judge those who may turn to these kinds of meditations, as many in the Catholic laity may judge them as “harmless”, even if questioned by their parishoners. I have been told myself that “Jesus Christ meditated”, without further instruction.

    In addition, sometimes people have horrendous life events that leave them reeling, and that is when Satan strikes them. To say that the Church is there to help them stand back up is true, however, at times the atmostphere may not be supportive- or the Church may not even be aware fully of these life events, and at times a person’s mind may be just unable to comprehend how to get back there. They turn to something that they thing is “holy” that they can do in the privacy of their homes… a meditation set to ‘chants” that seem to be “prayerful” having no idea that it is opening the door to the Evil one.

    They truly have good intentions. It is not done out of a need to deny the Church, simply out of ignorance.

  • Kathy

    I often wonder what makes Roman Catholics seek something “more”, outside of the fullness of the Roman Catholic church. I have been laboring under the belief that
    there is nothing further needed than Catholic prayers and devotions and most important, of course, the Holy Mass, Holy Communion, and Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament. I also believe that deeper unity with God is a result of all the above, and also, meditation, particularly on the Passion of Christ, the fruit of which, if God so chooses, is contemplation, which is itself a gift from God. It is good to read about the dangers of Eastern mysticism, as experienced first hand by Fr. Kneemiller, so people may be warned away from it, and all New Age practices, and will instead delve more deeply into the profound spiritiual riches found within the Roman Catholic Church.

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