Fr. John Hollowell: Agreeing with the Holy Father

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Fr. John Hollowell:  “The Holy Father, during a recent Angelus address, said that if a Catholic doesn’t have the Faith anymore, it would be more honest to leave.  (Courageous Priest posted it Here.)

This confirms for me something I taught my students the past few years at Ritter – the idea that I have more respect for people who have thought through the issues and leave the Church than I do for the people who disagree with the Church on every conceivable issue of importance, but don’t do the intellectually honest thing and leave.

I’ve said many times I’d much rather talk to an atheist than a cafeteria Catholic because while an atheist has taken false premises to their true conclusion, a cafeteria Catholic has taken true premises through to false conclusions while also lacking the courage to ACT on those false conclusions.  Is there anything more illogical than that “catholics” who hate the Church?  There is no such thing as Twinkie fans who hate Twinkies, no such thing as Buddhists who hate Buddhism, and no such thing as football fans who hate football.

I’m glad to see the Pope confirm something I’ve felt for a long time – if people don’t like the Church, they should do the intellectually honest thing and leave.”

 

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Thank you Father John Hollowell!

 

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18 comments to Fr. John Hollowell: Agreeing with the Holy Father

  • […] Father Zuhlsdorf commented on this here. John Quinn also covered this here and here. […]

  • christian contributor

    Subject: A Hostile environment for Christians at University of Maryland in College Park, Md
    Father John Hollowell,
    How would you go about spreading the gospel that calls young people to change their sexual behavior if they treat Christians as bigots at the mention of Jesus’ name? I am not ashamed of our Lord and Savior and I want others to know that their is a life beyond the gratification of fleshly desires. Yet, I find myself being mocked by college students who have heard me speak and by people who recognize the beliefs for which I stand. I believe in the Christian call to be compassionate and the expectation of conversion as mentioned by Fr. Paul Check. A gospel without compassion or the expectation of conversion is incomplete.
    Please contact me at your earliest convenience.
    God bless you.

  • Br. Christopher Sale

    I have to give my opinion about homosexuality. For over 40 years I
    was afflicted with homosexual behavior. I no longer consider myself gay.
    I know its possible to reverse this behavior. However It takes a closeness
    to God and prayer. I’m an advocate that homosexuals can attain this
    achievement by staying close to the church. And that homosexuals must
    be treated with love and respect. A homosexual cannot attain this by
    allowing the church to place a wedge between God and the homosexual.
    But let me say this. Homosexuals should never be allowed to receive
    communion when they are practicing homosexuals. And the gay agenda must
    be omitted from entering the church. Here in Los Angeles practicing gays
    are going to communion without a moral conscience. They are also being
    allowed to bring the gay rainbow flag in the church to use as an altar cover.
    When homosexuals continue to forced their sexuality on the faithful it is
    sinful. They can receive communion to ease their conscience, but God is
    not being fooled. In my ministry, my sole concern is for the salvation of souls.
    However they will never gain this until they separate themselves from this
    behavior. I know this sounds harsh, but I pray other homosexuals will find
    the peace and joy I have found in my spiritual life and relationship with God.
    Salvation can only come when we stop trying to justify sin and recognize it
    with true contrition.

  • Bill

    Gay people are not treated in a Christian way.

    _____________

    Hello Bill,

    Can you tell me how? Is homosexual acts ok? Is St. Paul being unChristian saying, “Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things (homosexual acts) deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them.”

    Looking for clarification.

    God bless you Bill

  • Bill

    Many segments of the Catholic Church, are quite Catholic, but not very Christian, the treatment, of gays, the treatment of divorced Catholics and many others. The swing to the radical right by the Church as made the institutional church more important than the people of God. This trend will probably continue as long as the current Pope is in office and probably long after. We will continue inferior men appointed as Bishops and the crop of new priests are, for most part, sub-par.

    ______________

    Honestly Bill? This is what you truly believe?

    Bill, here is a letter St. Paul wrote to the Romans. Please read it. How does St. Paul handle the treatment of gays? Is St. Paul being very Christian?

    Bill, when do we as Christians reveal to practicing homosexuals that their lifestyle is exchanging the truth about God for a lie?

    Romans 1:
    [16]For I am not ashamed of the gospel: it is the power of God for salvation to every one who has faith, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

    [17] For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, “He who through faith is righteous shall live.”
    [18] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth.

    [19] For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
    [20] Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;
    [21] for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened.
    [22] Claiming to be wise, they became fools,
    [23] and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles.
    [24] Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,

    [25] because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen.
    [26] For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,

    [27] and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
    [28]And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.

    [29] They were filled with all manner of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity, they are gossips,
    [30] slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
    [31] foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
    [32] Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them.

  • Dear friends at CP:

    This is something I have preached to my people repeatedly. If you have anything contrary to say to what ever I preach in union with the Magisterium then you the only choice is that you leave. Stop trying to change the Church from within and just go find yourself what you want since there are over 45,000 flavors of self made “church” out there. The logical conclusion is that you leave. The only on that is indispensable is Jesus Christ!

    Fr. Luis

  • Bill

    The late Cardinal Martini:

    How do you see the
    situation of the church?

    The church is tired, in the Europe of well-being and in America. Our culture has become old, our churches and our religious houses are big and empty, the bureaucratic apparatus of the church grows, our rites and our dress are pompous. Do these things, however, express what we are today? … Well-being weighs on us. We find ourselves like the rich young man who went away sad when Jesus called him to be his disciple. I know that we can’t let everything go easily. At least, however, we can seek people who are free and closest to their neighbor, like Archbishop Romero and the Jesuit martyrs of El Salvador. Where are the heroes among us who can inspire us? By no means do we have to limit them by the boundaries of the institution.

  • Bill

    The truth can be painful.

    ________________

    Hello Bill,

    It is good to have you back! I must say, once again, that I cannot agree with you any more than the comment you just shared.
    The Truth can be painful. It is like a two edged sword, it cuts both ways whether you follow the Truth or not.

    Bill, your point about something being “wrong with the church that loses that many people,” is a great observation. Have you ever meditated on this Scripture passage?

    Acts 2:
    [44] And all who believed were together and had all things in common;
    [45] and they sold their possessions and goods and distributed them to all, as any had need.
    [46] And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they partook of food with glad and generous hearts,
    [47] praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.

    Makes me wonder if the problem is the Church, the spotless bride of Christ, or those are bound to obey her? What are your thoughts Bill?

    God bless and your continued prayers are greatly appreciated.
    John Quinn

  • Bill

    John,

    Are you going to publish my posting?

  • TG

    AMEN. (I think there are some Catholics like the liberal so call nuns that stay to undermine the church from within and others stay because they were raised that way but don’t have a clue about what being Catholic means.)

  • Theresa A Otto

    Thank you so much Father for your outstanding homily. Yes, i agree with you and the Holy Father, if you do not agree with the teachings of the Catholic Church, then leave.

    Pax Christi,

    Theresa

  • Bill

    If “lapsed” Catholics were a separate religion, they would be the second largest denomination in the United Sates. There is something wrong with the church that loses that many people. Check out this link (If John can muster the intellectual honesty to post it.) regarding Cardinal Martini of Milan. It makes interesting reading:http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/translated-final-interview-martini

  • Most certainly if one does not agree with the Church’s teachings should leave. In fact they have, as Judas did. So admitting they are not Catholic would be the truth, but then they are liars as was Judas .

    Patricia

  • Amen to this! It has been obvious for years….if you do not agree with the Church….get out! If you stay but publicly talk down the rules…..or act in a contrary way to the Faith…..it must be for a very sinister reason like taking people away from God.

    There is a huge price to pay when someone actually causes someone to commit sin by leading them away from right paths.
    More priests and bishops should be outspoken on this issue.
    Bern

  • Louise Myers

    Remember what our Lord said “When I return will I find any Faithful?”

  • Br. Christopher Sale

    Sadly I run across people everyday that are in some way gong against the
    teachings of the church. Some are leaving because of the direction the church
    is taking. In my ministry I teach that when you rebel against the church and the
    teachings you are in essence rebeling against God. I pray people will put God
    first despite the many things we disagree with. Because at the end of the day
    its about God and our salvation.
    God bless.
    Br. Christopher B.P.P.

  • John

    I truly like a Priest who speaks the truth bodly and plainly espically during the culture of death in which we now live

    If you truly do believe in what the Church teaches there is not other place you can go

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