Father Michael Rodriguez: Any Catholic Who Supports Homosexual Acts…

Is Committing A Mortal Sin And Places Themselves Outside Of Communion With the Roman Catholic Church

Father Michael Rodriguez-I sincerely hope and pray that all El Paso Catholics will take to heart the precious and infallible teachings of Holy Mother Church in the moral sphere, particularly those most relevant to our city at this critical juncture.

Remember: Every single Catholic, out of fidelity to charity and truth, has the absolute duty to oppose (1) the murder of unborn babies, and (2) any and all government attempts to legalize homosexual unions.

Any Catholic who supports homosexual acts is, by definition, committing a mortal sin, and placing himself/herself outside of communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

Furthermore, a Catholic would be guilty of a most grievous sin of omission if he/she neglected to actively oppose the homosexual agenda, which thrives on deception and conceals its wicked horns under the guises of “equal rights,” “tolerance,” “who am I to judge?,” etc.

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops published a pastoral letter on marriage in November 2009, which is endorsed by our own local bishop, his Excellency, Most Rev. Armando X. Ochoa.

This pastoral letter states the following:

“Among the many blessings that God has showered upon us in Christ is the blessing of marriage, a gift bestowed by the Creator from the creation of the human race.

“The Church has taught throughout the ages that marriage is an exclusive relationship between one man and one woman.

“One of the most troubling developments in contemporary culture is the proposition that persons
of the same sex can ‘marry.’ This proposal attempts to redefine the nature of marriage and the family and, as a result, harms both the intrinsic dignity of every human person and the common good of society.

“It is not unjust to oppose legal recognition of same-sex unions, because marriage and same-sex unions are essentially different realities. The denial of the social and legal status of marriage to forms of cohabitation that are not and cannot be marital is not opposed to justice; on the contrary, justice requires it.”

I urge all of the Catholic faithful to treat homosexuals with love, understanding, and respect. At the same time, never forget that genuine love demands that we seek, above all, the salvation of souls. Homosexual acts lead to the damnation of souls.

Recently, a couple of letter writers claimed that in a democracy, it’s up to the majority to decide between right and wrong. This form of reasoning is not only false, it’s ludicrous!

While it’s true that a majority of the citizens in a democracy has the political power to impose its “morality” on society, this juridical reality has no bearing whatsoever on the intrinsic moral value of actions.

That which makes something right or wrong is the objective moral order established by God, which can also be grasped and appreciated through the use of human reason. In philosophy, this is known as natural law.

Even the ancient Greeks had a basic respect for the principles of natural law.

To simplify: One would have to be ghastly morally decrepit to think that if 51 percent of Americans opine that rape is OK, then rape becomes, in effect, all right. Sure, the majority is politically capable of such a vote, but this could never make rape morally right.

There is such a thing as a corrupt democracy, you know!

Abortion and homosexual acts are unequivocally intrinsic moral evils. And friends, this objective truth doesn’t depend on the opinion of the majority. Frighteningly, if the majority chooses to deny the objective moral order, then we will all suffer the pestiferous consequences.

Fr. Michael Rodríguez is the parish priest at San Juan Bautista Catholic Church.

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56 comments to Father Michael Rodriguez: Any Catholic Who Supports Homosexual Acts…

  • PJ

    I encourage people that Repentance must be done by those who indorsed same sax marriage sin of darkness
    In raising matters up to the father in Jesus,s name to reclaim the streets and towns, cities of Ireland
    “Jesus our Savour is the light” (The Holy Bible truth is Gods Word that belongs to everyone)

  • Richard Franks

    Gay Marriage in San Francisco is OKAY but in the Catholic Church should not be allowed. I detest the practice of homosexuality especially in the catholic church and it should stay that way.

  • Bob

    Thank you Father for having the courage to speak the truth.
    May God bless you and your ministry.

  • Paul

    I wholeheartedly agree with everything Father Rodriguez has to say on the subject of homosexuality. Homosexuals seek to justify their vice by comparing it to the institution of slavery – referring to Christians as “intolerant” – a blustering, emotion laden analogy and brazen attempt to intimidate decent people using an ‘argument’ which is wholly without substance. No Christian on this earth is holding a homosexual in slavery. The fact of the matter is that homosexuals are sex driven people who have of their own free will sold themselves into slavery to this vice, and any Catholic who seeks to encourage them in this lifestyle shares in the divine condemnation attached to it. In order to be forgiven and ask the Church for reconciliation, one must first acknowledged that one has sinned grievously against God – those who encourage others to engage in acts of mortal sin by telling them it is perfectly all right to do so – will face final judgement just as surely as the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. As Catholics, we all know what the Scriptures have to say about homosexuality. There is no room for compromise.

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  • Jacqueline

    @ Theo
    There is a process for excommunication and it begins with the priest or Bishop speaking to the person about the grave sin that they are endorsing and urging them to change their ways to conform with the teachings of the Church. If the person persists in the behavior of sin, then that person is excommunicated and denied Communion. However, we excommunicate ourselves when we commit grave sins because we cannot receive Communion in a sinful state without committing a Sacrilege. Therefore, grave sin causes us to be outside Communion with the Roman Catholic Church that we inflict upon ourselves. It is the discussions, knowledge and merciful compassion expressed by the priest in Confession or otherwise that gives the person the opportunity to repent and change his sinful ways. The problem is that sinners refuse to acknowledge that they are sinning. Confession and repentance will restore the person to the graces of God through the Roman Catholic Church.
    Father Rodriguez is correct in my opinion and in the knowledge of my faith. God bless your courage, Father Michael.

  • Please see my posts titled the True Shepherd and Homosexuality and its Health Risks at https://criadodeverdade.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/the-true-shepherd/ We love our homosexual brothers and sisters but homosexual practices will lead to their self-destruction thus homosexual acts should not be encouraged for their own protection.

  • giomacias

    During this ordeal, there were two priests, Fr. Michael wrote about the evils of homosexuality, while Fr. Roden-Lucero, who is addressed as Rev. Dr. Ed Roden-Lucero, wrote the rebuttals. He described those that are against the same-sex lifestyle and domestic partners (unmarried)as “new mullahs of a Christian Taliban.” He is still in our diocese, while Fr Michael is removed. I found Rev. Dr.Roden-Lucero’s twitter account. It’s very interesting to see who follows what.

    http://twitter.com/#!/abuna_dude/following

    Ricky Martin
    Rachel Maddow
    Enrique Iglesias
    Arianna Huffington.
    Anderson Cooper

    There is an attempt to have Fr. Michael return to El Paso. Pray for us.

  • Thank you Father Rodriguez for not being afraid to preach the truth. that is true love.

    to not say it- Especially when people are out there committing serious sin- is to not worry about their salvation. As a shepherd he has a moral obligation to preach the truth and try and bring those who by their bad choices have essentially ‘put themselves out” of communion with the Church.

    All devoted priests need to speak out. And not just about homosexuality. How about the Mortal sin of spousal abandonment by Catholic spouses for no good reason ( no abuse, no danger, no extreme drug use..), just I dont love you and want to “start over”. these spouses need to hear it preached from the pulpit that YES this too is a serious MORTAL sin and that they cannot present themselves for Eucharist ( this is to commit further moral sin by receiving unworthily) while they are abandoning the vows/families they freely made. leaving children forever scared and damaged by the emotional and financial abandonment.

  • Joe Yungk

    why is nobody concerned with fr. Rodriguez saying that gays are “putrid”?

    Is that treating homosexuals with dignity? Surely taking out an ad saying this is not at all dignified for anyone involved.


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    Hello Joe,

    I greatly appreciate the concerns you have for Father Rodriguez’s soul. For indeed if Father truly did refer to gays as being putrid then this is an attack on their dignity. Now, if he is referring to homosexual acts, then he is following biblical truths.

    So, what exactly did Father say? I found what you’re referring to, here it is:

    “laws are enacted which impose the putrid homosexual ideology on everyone”

    As you can clearly see, he is not calling homosexuals putrid. He is calling homosexual IDEOLOGY putrid, which is consistent with his writings. I am sure this is an oversight on your part, because taking someone’s comment and misrepresenting what was truly said is not at all dignified for anyone involved. Wouldn’t you agree?

    God bless you and thank you for your comment,
    John Quinn

  • Denden

    TO FRANK

    Yes, JESUS did preach we should love our neighbors and LOVE is demanding. It requires at times TOUGH LOVING when we have to correct what is wrong. Jesus was ANGRY at the money-changers for turning the temple into a market place. He did that out of LOVE for GOD (our SUPREME GOOD). He forgave and love the ADULTERER by saying “GO and SIN NO MORE”. He didn’t say CONTINUE in your PERVERSE and SINFUL BEHAVIOUR.

    So, when Fr. RODRIGUEZ teaches the TRUTH about true sexuality in light of the Teachings of Christ through the Catholic Church, he is doing the Best Loving of making sure that souls are not loss to Satan bec narrow is the road that leads to heaven but wide is the road that leads to perdition (words of Jesus not mine). Hey, if hell does not exist, then there is no point for Christ to come and save us. God does not condemn us to hell , we condemn ourselves bec we made the decisions ourselves with our free will. God does not forces us to love him if we choose to love the Devil. God of course will be sad though that’s why he makes sure He always call us to authentic freedom to follow His commandments (they are commandments that suggestions or choices) so that one day we will be united in Him in Heaven.

    Really, what’s the confusion here. If you have a problem with what Fr. Rodriguez statements, you have a problem with Christ and his teachings. It’s as simple as that bec it’s all in the Gospel if you care to read it from cover to cover .

  • Carol Dixon Klein

    This is the clearest, most frank, real, honest,best word on homosexuality I have ever read. It is strong, yes, and that is exactly what we need. Today everyone is pussyfooting around trying to be cool, and avoid hurting someone (yet, those who oppose us state it in no uncertain terms, hurt or not). The uninformed and undecided need the strength and clarity of this message. And we who believe it to be true are encouraged to see there are those who know what is right.

  • Jose

    Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)
    22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

    Leviticus 20:13 (KJV)
    13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Romans 1:26-32 (KJV)
    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
    30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
    31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
    32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    ** When such souls follow the LIE they begin to walk in conformity to the LIE **

    Satan’s whole system is built on a LIE; his motive is murder; his method is the LIE.

    John 8:44 (KJV)
    44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    ** ‘Repentance’ . . . or ‘Consequence,’ are the only choices GOD affords us **
    GODSPEED

  • Frank

    Fr. Rodriquez continues to condemn persons of the Catholic faith that do not believe and support the extremist views of narrow minded Christians. I think Christ would be appalled on how distorted some members of the church are. I was under the impression that Christ preached about love for all persons. Christ was not judgmental so why is Fr. Rodriquez so fixated on pointing his righteous finger at gays? The church has persecuted enough people throughout the centuries and some Catholics want to continue this type of outdated dogma? In my opinion, the oppression of others that do not think as you do is very unjust and not a very Christian way to act. The church has enough problems of its own with attempts to cover up that priests that have sexually abused children. Didn’t Christ say “you that are without sin be the first to cast the stone.” Why are some Catholics in the church casting stones at gays?

  • Marcia

    Thank you Father Rodriguez for speaking about something we don’t hear about in church, SIN, be it sexual, lying, slander, missing Mass etc. Father Corapi has spoken out on this subject numerous time , which of course made him very unpopular with many bishops. God however does not call us to be popular only to be faithful. May He continue to give you the courage to preach the truth no matter what! Someday and it may be sooner than we think, we will be persecuted for following Christ in this country. If that day comes I hope the Holy Spirit will empower us all to say VIVA EL CHRISTO REY!

  • Julia

    Can I just say, Anne you have put the whole debate in perspective.
    We are not allowed to judge people when we are made aware of their sins, wheither sexual or otherwise. “Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”.

    What I find very confusing is, why people who want to copulate with their own kind ie men with men, or women with women, demand to parade or celebrate their intimate behaviour in public. Is this part of the excitement for them. ? Getting everybody even Bishops and Priests into the public domain discussing the business publicly.

    I remember the 60s’ when girls who were promiscuous acted so brazen, and in your face.

    Gay people strike me as being brazen husseys, who are walking slip shod over every one. Just like the cheap brazen husseys in the 60s’ who just always have to get their own way. And to hell with society is the message gay rights people are sending out to me.

    • PJ

      Julia, We all have to make decisions daily,judgements on right or wrong and in Word of God laws are clear in controversial issues in Holy Bible, it doesn’t matter what denomination churches or none. The When equality never had nothing to do with marriage, its not anyone civil or human right. Its a choice only for the union of man and woman who become one flesh,(by reason itself) God’s laws are clear,He blessed them and said to Adam and Eve “Be fertile and multiply.

      God said to the prophet Moses “Man must not lie with man in sexual lust exchanging woman, it is unnatural, corrupt,immoral and abomination” also same in New Testament by Matthew and Paul
      The 10 commandments of God also was given by God to Moses. In my view same sex act is evil,perverted lust gratification, not love I follow the Holy Spirit in the Acts of Jesus’s Apostles in Holy Bible.
      “My faith is in Savour Jesus Christ who fulfilled prophecy,is the authority as Sovereign King of Kings”
      The Holy Trinity is very important that I focus on and Michael Archangel and Psalm 91 Protection promised by the Lord.

  • ANNE

    WELL SAID FATHER, IT IS SO REFRESHING FOR A PRIEST IN THIS DAY TO SPEAK THE TRUTH. YOU ARE TRULY A JOHN THE BAPTIST OF OUR TIMES.
    OUR LADY OF FATIMA TOLD THE CHILDREN OF FATIMA IN 1917 TO PRAY THE ROSARY EVERY DAY AND THAT MORE SOULS GO TO HELL BECAUSE OF SINS OF THE FLESH.
    OUR LADY ALSO SAID IN 1973 IN AKITA, JAPAN
    “As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as no one has ever seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only consolation which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests.”

    “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres…churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.

    CATHOLICS, USE YOUR SPIRITUAL WEAPON THE ROSARY AND SAY IT DAILY FOR IT DEFEATS HERESY.
    LUCIA, ONE OF THE FATIMA VISIONARIES SAID THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM THE ROSARY CANNOT SOLVE.
    OUR LORD WILL SPIT OUT THE LUKEWARM.
    WE ARE AT WAR. IF ONLY 10% OF CATHOLICS DID WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO AND PRAY THE ROSARY EVERY DAY,THE CHANGE WOULD COME.
    PRAY FOR PRIESTS,
    GOD BLESS FATHER RODRIGUEZ,
    YOURS IN CHRIST,
    ANNE

  • Ruth

    YES!!!! Finally, here is a priest that loves and trusts the Lord. He is fearless in proclaiming the truth. In all the years I have attended mass I can honestly say I have never heard any homily about homosexuality, and only a couple regarding abortion.
    Why is that? There are so many people hurting from the sin of homosexuality and abortion and our priests say nothing. God Bless Father Rodriguez. May he inspire other priests, religious, and lay people to proclaim the truth in love.

  • Janet

    I have a very dear friend who is an inactive homosexual, and he is totally against this same sex marriage business. He realized that the politicians are using this for their own purposes, and he also claims that their are many of his friends who feel the same. 3 cheers for those who realize the evil at hand.

  • Brian Murphy

    It is clear what the priest says; this unnatural behaviour is a mortal sin and people who leave this world in this state go to hell forever. Those of us who refuse to speak out against this unnatural an repulsive “sexual” anal rape ( sodomy) are guilty of betraying their faith an must suffer the consequences in the next life. A lot of us are trying to be politically smart an agreeing with everything but the Christian life is not meant to be live- this way; because we have to make a stand on important issues which effect our children an society in general; when Jesus spoke the truth he was crucified as he showed the Jewish priests to be hypocrites. We all have an obligation to bear witness to the truth of Christianity otherwise Jesus said he “would not support us when our eternal future is examined in the next life in the context of how we lived our lives.

  • paula

    Its all a ‘sign of the times’…we are living in the times of “Noah” when the world became putrid!
    Look all you who have eyes and ears, the signs are all there as prophesied in the Bible,in the messages of the Virgin Mary, and other holy mystics! We need more courageous people to stand for truth and common decency!

  • Thank you Fr. Michael,

    We may all be martyred for it in the end some day, but we must continue to speak the truth in love.

    They call us intolerant but this is our TRUTH and we will stand in it. I have sympathy for people with same sex attraction but like those who are single and must remain chaste, they are called by our faith to so the same. We cannot approve what used to be called a sexual dysfunction.

  • If Fr. Rodriguez is standing in opposition to a city “sexual orientation” ordinance, he is simply following the Vatican’s instructions in a 1992 letter to bishops — signed by Pope John Paul II and suthored by then-Cardinal Ratziner — expressly opposing such laws.

    Read:

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFHOMOL.HTM

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  • dan

    Homosexual acts are so frequently compulsive, neurotic, deeply rooted in feelings of self-hate and gender distortion that they are NOT acts of free will and not intrinsically mortal sins. The young violinist who killed himself was intelligent, sensitive and certainly well aware that there was a welcoming, ‘happy’, accepting world of ‘Gayness’ waiting for him if he would just ’embrace’ his same sex drives and proudly say ‘I’m gay!!”. I believe he hated this part of himself and did not WANT to say that and the ‘Rainbow Cupcake’ offered to him is full of rat poison and he knew it. Homosexuals frequently are drawn to anonymous, compulsive sexual acts when they are depressed, afraid, full of self-doubt and afraid. Healthy? Yeah, right. Proudly ‘out’ gays kill themselves in the same numbers as closeted ‘oppressed’ teens. A lot.

    • Hi Dan and thanks for your comment. The Church can only state what objectively is a mortal sin. The church cannot say for certain whether or not someone has subjectively committed a mortal sin because the church does not know for sure what circumstances have contributed to the person who has chosen to participate in grave sin. There can be mitigating factors that do not make the sin mortal, but only God knows for sure when someone has committed a mortal sin. However, it is one of the church’s missions to enlighten humanity in-regards to what actions are intrinsically evil and what actions have the potential to be mortal sins.

      God Bless,

      Jeff Gares

  • VERITAS

    The picture of Fr. Rodriguez next to the Sacred Hearts!!!

  • VERITAS

    God bless Father Rodriguez.
    God blees his holy apostolate
    God bless his priesthood!!

  • Kevin

    There is one concrete pillar that stands between homosexuals and Our Lord — they want to hold onto their sin. They want to deny it is a sin. They talk about forgiveness, yet they don’t know what to ask forgiveness for. He or she must come to Him with a contrite heart and acknowledge they have sinned. They should not try to argue with God that this is not a sin. They are entertained by lust and not listening to the Holy Spirit. We all have crosses to bear. To think that we should embrace our sin is abandoning your cross. Take you cross and walk with Him.

    Your first mistake was to let the world tell you that there is such thing as a homosexual lifestyle. To God it is sin — plain and simple.

    God bless Father Rodriguez.

  • carmen

    i agree with fr. rodriguez, for too long we have been fed water down sermons and speeches, to where some people have forgotten what is right and what is wrong, but God always sends his church warriors who tell it like it is.

  • Faustina

    The bishop is wrong, Father Rodriguez is correct because Is Committing A Mortal Sin And Places Themselves Outside Of Communion With the Roman Catholic Church, the aren’t in comunnion with catholic church. Saint Paul says in his letter that homosexual aren’t going to heave.
    That’s why many catholic are confuse, because some priest dosen’t teach the real doctrine, they teach a light doctrine, so they get light catholics, and cafeteria catholics. Is better to have few people but good catholics, than having a lot of light catholics people. When you speak with the true people has the chance to convert, when you speak light people won”t change their lifes, they think they are right.
    Congratulations to father Rodriguez.

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  • Jo

    What a millstone Nancy Pelosi and her gang must have. Am I judgemental? I am using the mental capacity that God gave me to discern that I don’t want to follow her. I want to pray for her so she doesn’t lead innocents on the wrong path. I think we have the right to “judge” right from wrong. I don’t condemn her to hell. That’s God’s job. But doesn’t he also ask us to go to them, go to the Church when someone is doing wrong? The priests/bishops/Pope all need to speak up, speak often, speak loudly. And we need to join them! We need to give brooms to clergy and voters and CLEAN HOUSE.

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  • Sherri

    Wow I like what Anonymous has to say, thank you friend for words of wisdom. Sounds like the Holy Spirit is alive in you.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s time for people to wake up to the reality of the homosexual agenda and stop trying to use the “God is a loving God” and “who am I to judge card”(as Father mentioned). Let us remember that though its true that God loves us sinners, he does NOT love our SIN. It is our moral duty to speak the truth to our bretheren especially if they are in serious sin. That is true CHARITY….worrying about their eternal salvation. Pray for our clergy that they be not afraid to speak the truth.

    p.s. Father does not pretend to speak for God or much less for himself he actually speaks what God has taught through his Holy Catholic Church for 2000yrs or so. God Bless.

  • Barbkw

    Kelso,

    “Excommunication issue. If someone rejects the teaching of the Church knowing that such a doctrine, moral or dogmatic, is the constant teaching of the Church, that person is automatically, at least materially, excommunicated.”

    “Why?”

    “Because he is no longer a Catholic?”

    Yes, that is correct, that person has self excommunicated him or herself from the Church Body and the Body of Christ.

    “Am I missing something here?”

    No.

    “A Formal excommunication would be a public juridical act, issued by a bishop.”

    Yes, normally formal excommunications are issued only after a bishop has provided proper counsel to a person in which he formally addresses their error.

    (As Sacred Scripture requests should be done in Matthew 18:15 and Luke 17:3.)

    As I understand it, formal excommunications are done when a person turns their private error into a public scandal.

    Recently Kathleen Sabelius’ bishop (after years of dialog with her) announced publically that she was not to present herself for Communion until she confesses her sin and makes public changes to her voting record as it concerns abortion.

  • Kelso

    Excommunication issue. If someone rejects the teaching of the Church knowing that such a doctrine, moral or dogmatic, is the constant teaching of the Church, that person is automatically, at least materially, excommunicated. Why? Because he is no longer a Catholic? Am I missing something here? A Formal excommunication would be a public juridical act, issued by a bishop.

  • Sherri

    Listen if you are catholic then the statement by Father Rodriguez will not offend you and I agree with him. What he has to say is not new, it is in the bible and God does not lie.

  • Sherri

    I agree with the Priest

  • Eileen Griffin

    John:

    Militant homosexual organizations have proven themselves to be champions of hate and intolerance. They persecute anyone who dares to speak of his Christian beliefs. Do you really believe it is charitable to remain silent when those who act out their same sex attractions risk doing serious damage to their health and suffering the eternal loss of their souls? Chastity is the virtue. Secular society’s idea of tolerance is not. The Bible says if your neighbor commits a sin, and you do not tell him it’s a sin and if he goes to hell because of his sin, then his blood is on your hands.

  • Barbkw

    John,

    Through the forced acceptance of gay marriage, homosexuals are also attempting to normalize their sexual actions.

    Pope Benedict wrote:

    “…According to the teaching of the Church, men and women with homosexual tendencies ‘must be accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided’.

    “They (homosexuals) are called, like other Christians, to live the virtue of chastity.

    “The homosexual inclination is however ‘objectively disordered’ and homosexual practices are ‘sins gravely contrary to chastity’.”

    “In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty.”

    “One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application.”

    “In this area, everyone can exercise the right to conscientious objection.”

  • john

    I think inspiring hate or intolerance is a worse sin in God’s eyes. And this is exactly what these sentiments do.

    Pray for yourselves and your own souls. We are all guilty of sin. When we judge others and “pretend” to “speak” for God, or “know” his mind, we are seriously wrong. We should be promoting his compassion/mercy for those we consider outcasts or “different”. This, in essence, is truly uniting oneself to Our Lords’ heart and will for each one of us…..no matter who/what we are. So, meditate on this and you will no fall into harsh judgement of others. God bless all for now.

  • Barbkw

    Theo,

    Whether canonical or self excommunication, out of communion is out of communion with the Church.

    If not that, the Church Body becomes a community of “cafeteria Catholics”.

    In actuality, protestants sitting in a Catholic Church.

    Homosexual acts were not accepted by the Jews, by the Apostles or by the Early Church fathers.

    Seemingly large numbers of people in our society are attempting to rewrite the meaning of Sacred Scripture.

    Supporting or defending the sexual acts of homosexuals places a Catholic outside the Eucharist, outside of the teachings & traditions of the Catholic Church, and outside of Sacred Scripture.

    Least we forget, as evidenced in Scripture, sexual acts between people of the same sex are mortal sins. Sins so mortal & grievious that entire cities were destroyed where these homosexual acts were exclusively practiced.

    Gay marriage is defacto support of the sexual acts of homosexuals, bisexuals, transgendered, people in various stages of reengineering their sexual organs, etc.

    When a Catholic supports or defends gay marriage, the person places him/herself outside the faith practices of the Church.

    Similar yet more grievious than Catholics who support, defend or practice sexual experimentation between single people and divorced people.

  • TDJ

    Hello y’all:

    Please, understand that I’m not dissing Father, nor am I diminishing the moral responsibility of those who support evil, in this case, same-sex marriage.

    I’m just making a technical, canonical point – I’m not an expert, I’ve just, eh, read the code. (What a geek I am!).

    To state “…placing himself/herself outside of communion with the Roman Catholic Church” is to state “excommunication”: that prefix “ex-” means “outside.” The whole trust of the statement implies that the person has formally sundered, or _latae sententia_ incurrs in excommunication, which is an ecclessiastical penalty.

    Being denied Holy Communion is a moral penalty, not a canonical one. So, I thought the statement needed clarification. Supporting same-sex marriage doesn’t place you outside of the communion of the Church, but, depending on the usual conditions for grave, mortal sin, impedes you from receiving Holy Communion. These are two different things.

    Another example: No one can say “Ah, I’m outside of the Church because I support same-sex marriage.” “No”, comes the knowledgeable reply, “you are not out of the Church but may be you can’t receive Holy Communion. Do you know you are supporting an evil? Do you know you’re creating scandal thereby leading others to sin? Perhaps you should discern that before you partake of the Bread and the Chalice.”

    That’s all I wanted to state. Thank you for the kudos for my site and for allowing me to participage here.

    Yours in Christ,
    -Theo

  • Barbkw

    I left this comment on the El Paso newspaper website in support of Fr. Michael’s newspaper article:

    “As we all know, people die and / or suffer great personal loss when they can’t achieve sexual fulfillment.

    Right?

    Children die and / or suffer great personal loss if they don’t have sex. Teenagers, they’ll die if they don’t have sex. Single adults must have sex or they will die.

    No?

    Handicapped people must have sex or they will die. Married people must have sex or they will die. Cohabitating couples must have sex or they will die. Divorced people must have sex. Homosexuals must have sex or they will die or suffer great personal loss.

    No?

    The larger society seems doomed to accept what they presently think they know about homosexuality.

    As the years roll on, these “tolerant loving nonjudgemental” people will allow their children to grow up in public schools where they will be taught to believe that sexual acts between males and sexual acts between females are “normal”.

    They will also learn that bisexuality is “normal” and that sexual experimentation is good.

    Transgendered people too – will be accepted as being within the bell curve of the “normal” range of human sexuality.

    Children will be taught through the public school that homosexuality isn’t learned, that children are born with a **** gene. In years to come, they also will teach that children are born with a bisexuality gene.

    Because as we all know, you die and / or suffer great personal loss if you don’t have sex.”

  • I concur with John, Theo your sight is very nice. However, Father Rodriguez is saying that Catholics who support Homosexual acts have divorced themselves from the Church and are not able to receive sanctifying grace until they repent and are restored to grace via a sacramental confession. This is my take on what Father Rodriguez was saying.

  • TDJ

    This needs some clarification:

    “Any Catholic who supports homosexual acts is, by definition, committing a mortal sin, and placing himself/herself outside of communion with the Roman Catholic Church.”

    This is not quite correct. Canon law prescribes excommunication to those who facilitate abortion, but it is silent on the issue of same-sex marriage. Let’s not forget that excommunication is a canonical tool aimed at restoring the violator.

    Certainly, those who perform an act, knowing that is evil, and do so with full freedom and knowledge, fall into mortal sin at which point they can’t receive Holy Communion. But this is not the same as “excommunication.”

    -Theo

    • Thanks for the comment Theo. Nice site!

      Can you show me where Father says they are excommunicated?

      Any mortal sin places oneself outside of communion with the Roman Catholic Church. I don’t see why a clarification is needed. What do you think?

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